"Yes, and this is when the Family would come
out of the hole, and being that he would have completed the white man's karma,
then he would no longer have this vicious want to kill."
you say 'he,' you mean Blackie?"
"Blackie then would come to
Charlie and say, you know, 'I did my thing, I killed them all and, you know, I
am tired of killing now. It is all over.' And Charlie would scratch his fuzzy
head and kick him in the butt and tell him to go pick the cotton and go be a good
nigger, and he would live happily ever after."
Watkins did not appear
to be any dummy, but he testified that he actually and sincerely believed that
Charles Manson was
Jesus Christ when he was a member of the Family. Of course
he doesn't believe that anymore. He recognizes Manson for the complete and total
fraud that he is. When he was a member of the Family he actually believed that
Manson was Jesus Christ. Watkins recalled one experience with Manson in which
Manson almost killed him. He said:
"We was sitting around on acid,
and I was getting kind of-I was feeling really weird, getting really stoned, and
I was reacting quite a bit. And Charlie was telling me to die. He was just saying
'Die,' just 'Die.' And I didn't just die. So he jumped up and started choking
me. At first I sort of fought it. I mean, I was going to physically fight it.
Then I knew there was something else going on, so I didn't. I just laid there.
But I was emotionally fighting it. In other words, I was scared, and really, really
afraid. He was laying on top of me, looking into my eyes, and he was actually
overpowering me. My throat wasn't strong enough to overcome the strength in his
hands, and I noticed that there was a relationship between my fear and how strong
his hands were on my throat, because it puzzled me that he could overcome me like
this. So then it was going on for quite a while, in other words I was really running
out of air, and then he smiled and looked in my eyes and he says, 'I'm going to
kill you now.'
"And at that point I thought I was dead anyway so I
just says well, I couldn't talk, but I just sort of mentally said, 'Okay, I give
up, go ahead.' And he jumped off and he sat back and smiled and said, 'Then if
you are willing to die, then you don't have to die.' Then he said, 'Come on and
make love with me.' "
Watkins testified, of course, to Manson's control,
absolute and complete control over his Family. He said that one time Manson told
him to hang on a cross near Spahn Ranch and be crucified, and Watkins agreed to
do it. Watkins said he was willing to die for Charlie. He testified he never disobeyed
Charlie once told Sadie to go to Rio de Janeiro to get
a half a coconut-and Sadie headed out the door, at which time Charlie told her
she didn't have to go, he wasn't that hungry for coconuts.
on the closing argument